Silence would be golden. Carlotto has little hope for the truth. “During the dictatorship las desapareciones, the disappearances, were used for economic reasons as well. Certain companies and groups were destroyed to build up others which are still going strong. Both industry and finance were highly complicit in this, and just how extensively has never been investigated. And let’s not forget the foreign governments, from the Soviet Union to the United States, whose interests were all furthered by the Argentine generals. And the secret services. The Spanish services, for example, and they weren’t the only ones, would go there to train to fight the ETA. The size of the problem has never really become known. Starting with the number of the victims. I realized that when I was there and I started to cross-check the list of the desaparecidos”. Thirty thousand, according to Carlotto, is absolutely rounded down. Inadequate. The tally is far higher. The problem is that long-term research and cross-checking is needed and that is, practically speaking, not feasible. Here again, international support came too late and what is known has to be considered enough. Nothing more cannot be expected. “But what can be expected,” he adds, “is that the torturers and killers should keep their mouths shut. This has never happened anywhere. Not even Pinochet ever dared to behave this way. The whole truth will never be known, but these murderers should at least have the good grace to simply shut up.”